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Category Archives: World Ages
Red Ice Radio is in fact one of my top favorites when it comes to discover high quality news in the field of ancient history, mythology or the occult. Therefore I am extremely happy that Henrik just interviewed Walter Cruttenden, whose book I read some years ago and whose conference, CPAK, I had visited in 2008.
Unfortunately last year’s conference was only one day – mainly because of the financial restrictions that hit researchers due to the ‘crisis’. This year (2010) will also be only an informal meeting among closely related researchers, and hopefully in 2011 we have another CPAK conference.
Anyway, Walter will be in the UK soon for some lectures – I just can’t find where I have read that. So check it out yourself and don’t miss the chance!
Also have a look at the speakers of the old CPAK conferences and their topics!
A Comparison in Iconography and Memetics
written for CPAK 2009
End of May 2009 I travelled to Pune with the purpose of visiting some of the famous cave temples in Maharastra. I had intended to do so for a long time, after having read the inspiring, though not scientific by modern standards, book of H. P. Blavatsky From the Caves and Jungles of Hindustan (Blavatsky, 1892) which left a slightly fictious impression – similar to an Indiana Jones movie.
During the following days I travelled to the caves of Bhaja and Karla, which are near the small town Lonavala, half way between Pune and Mumbai, slightly east of a mountain chain. This chain runs north-south for hundreds of kilometers and forms the Western boundaries of a huge plateau called Deccan, which almost stretches out to the East coast. These mountains serve as a watershed, separating the coastal strip from the higher mainland. As most, if not all, cave-temples in Maharashtra, those near Lonavala were carved from massive and highly durable volcanic rock. After paying a visit to the smaller but more archaic Pataleshvara Temple, which has now been encircled by the centre of modern Pune, I set off to a 240 km drive – which I thought would not take too long. Though the roads were acceptable, once again distances in India deceived me and in the end it took 6 hours to reach the famous site of Ellora.
After all the Mughal architecture and concrete-’rejuvenated’ (born-again) temples that I had visited during the last months, I expected little. When I reached Ellora, stood in front of the mighty Kailash-temple and after I made my way through the impressive Sita ki Nahani cave, something had fundamentally altered my understanding and low esteem of Indian architecture. This was different from what I had so far seen before. I had landed in an archaic and otherworldly epoch. Though most of the caves were decorated with statues and reliefs, I could still perceive and almost smell the same prehistoric monolithic aura and simplicity that constitute the essence of the henges of Britain, the temples of Malta (Ggantija and Mnajdra) or the large stone-fundaments at Baalbek.
Subsequently, while roaming through the various half lit chambers, trying still to keep an open mind, it struck me again and I could now specify even more from where the previous impressions originated. I stood in front of statues of heros or kings that strangely reminded me of Egypt, or even more specific Abu Simbel. They wore similar crowns, they were adorned and attributed by cobras and they had the distinct physiognomy of Nubio-Egyptian nobility. I had come across of various depictions of pyramids at the caves of Bhaja and Karla before and knew that of course the pyramidal shape had always played an important role as a basic meme for Hindu Temples as well as the Buddhist Stupas…
– This paper aims to deliver some background information to my poster presentation for the 2009 Conference on Precession and Ancient Knowledge (CPAK), hosted at UCI. It is kind of a spin-off from my current work on an enlarged English version of my previously published (in German) book on the World Ages and cyclical time, which will hopefully be ready for publishing soon. –
Some copy&paste from Stephen Wolfram’s book A New Kind of Science1:
“Time may have a fundamentally different nature from space
The standard mathematical formulation of relativity theory suggests that–despite our everyday impression–time should be viewed as a fourth dimension much like space. A New Kind of Science suggests however that time as we perceive it may instead emerge from an underlying process that makes it quite different from space. And through the concept of causal invariance the properties of time seem to lead almost inexorably to a whole collection of surprising results that agree with existing observations in physics–including the special and general theories of relativity, and perhaps also quantum mechanics.
Alignment of time in the universe
Evidence from astronomy clearly suggests that the direction of irreversible processes is the same throughout the universe. The reason for this is presumably that all parts of the universe are expanding–with the local consequence that radiation is more often emitted than absorbed, as evidenced by the fact that the night sky is dark. Olbers’ paradox asks why one does not see a bright star in every direction in the night sky. The answer is that locally stars are clumped, and light from stars further away is progressively red-shifted to lower energy. Focusing a larger and larger distance away, the light one sees was emitted longer and longer ago. And eventually one sees light emitted when the universe was filled with hot opaque gas–now red-shifted to become the 2.7K cosmic microwave background.
In the context of traditional mathematical equations there has never been much reason to consider the possibility that space and time might be fundamentally different. For typically space and time are both just represented by abstract symbolic variables, and the formal process of solving equations as a function of position in space and as a function of time is essentially identical. But as soon as one tries to construct more explicit models of space and time one is immediately led to consider the possibility that they may be quite different.”
In an older paper titled Who Doubts the Timeline I hypothesized how parts of today’s science could ultimately fail and crumble to make space for a new science and tried to show at the example of history and pre-history, how many important groups today have trouble with the old historiographic paradigms and thus how great the desire for “change” has manifested among alternative thinkers. Physics might be the most up to date part in today’s scientific system – but there are others which are not so capable of holding pace – especially medicine, the humanities and historiographical sciences. In the recent ALTA Report (Asymmetric Language Trend Analysis Interpretation and Predictions for 2009/2010) George Ure, Cliff High and the “Time Monks” are now predicting such a breakdown of the scientific world:
“The SpaceGoatFarts entity gains aspect/attribute sets in support of the [destruction (of controlled peer reviewed science/academia)] over all of 2009 through 2011, however a very large bulge of supporting sets arrive in a stream that is forecast to [last/persist for 10/ten years], and that begins in mid 2010 just as the [dollar death meme] collides with the [political elite implosion], and the [university (system of consumer education)] reaches bankruptcy. Again it is worth noting that it is the confluence of a number of very significant archetypes which produce the totality of effects on the [controlled science (of the western world)].”2
Some explanations: square brackets determine the ‘archetypical words’ that form the observed events. The text between is the interpretation of the time monks. “SpaceGoatFarts” is a collective expression for suppressed knowledge and secret informations withheld by various governments. The biggest junk of this secret knowledge seems to deal with history, the space program(s) and the UFO-archetype.
The time monks are repeatedly talking about a number of rogue waves that hit at the same time or shortly after each other like the famous “three sisters”. It is not just one pillar failing, but several columns of the system crumbling together and interdependently. Modern science is one such pillar and – only through the last months I realized to what extent – has become a central part of today’s ruling class’ system of control and power. Large parts of it have reached a point of dogmatism, comparable only to the late developments of theology in the Dark Ages.
What does this have to do with above statements from Stephen Wolfram? Well, insofar as one crucial result of the coming revolution might involve a radical change in our perception of time and history. The coming of this “change” is predicted by more than my own gut-feeling. It is obvious that the political class has almost emptied the reservoirs of public trust worldwide. What is less obvious, to what extent the credibility of science had been undermined – not by enemies of rational thinking, but by the excesses of the scientific class itself. Philosophers of Science like Paul Feyerabend, William R. Corliss and especially Robert Anton Wilson3 have mentioned this long ago and demanded a correction of course. The adaption did not take place so far and the overdue paradigm-changes were not made. During the last decade or so I witnessed a growing gap between independent researchers of ancient history and the scientific community. The same drifting apart can be witnessed between the allopathic community and diverse alternative methods of healing like TCM. When the dialogues break off, chances for a peaceful living-together diminish and a revolutionary process seems to be the only way left to break up the old crust of crystalline lexical knowledge.
We can’t see the light of this new science yet, but our noses touch the crust of the dogmas and we are able to smell that something is wrong with it. The miasma of an expired decaying body increasingly insults those more interested in truth, than in status and power.
(1) Wolfram Stephen: A New Kind of Science. Wolfram Media Inc.; Champaign, IL 2002.
(2) High, Cliff; Ure, George “ALTA Report 17.6.2009 – The Shape of Things to Come; Data Set Analysis”. pp. 30
(3) Wilson, Robert A.: The New Inquisition: Irrational Rationalism and the Citadel of Science. Falcon Press; Phoenix, Arizona 1986
Here is an interview with Gordon Novel which might be of particular interest to people who want to get some hints and ideas about time. He strongly emphasizes the direct connection between time and gravity:
“Well, to negate gravity, you’ve gotta negate time and so time is the power of the… of the bird and that’s where the power… We don’t believe it comes from space or zero point. We believe it comes from time, purely and simply, and that energy and time are the same thing.”
Though not entirely new, it is his emphasis that makes the argument interesting and throws a new light also on the discourses dealing with the World Ages phenomenon and the phenomena of precession.
He is (together with his team) approaching the issue from a very practical perspective, by allegedly reverse engineering “alien crafts” that they call “RAM – Replication Alien Machine”.
It gets more weird even: “If you can read the script [of the future] you can live the script” … which can help us cutting costs after the revolution, as Novel proposes, by getting rid of the criminal governments – since there would largely be no need any more for governments. I don’t get the complete logic of this, but it sounds a bit as if a very subtle form of “rulership by the gods” is taking over again, or at least plans to do so.
Is it an echo of the old platonian notion, that the earth revolves into one direction and the gods rule it, then after some Ages, it starts revolving into the other direction, times decline and the rulership is being taken over by mankind itself, the sheep policing the sheeople – to in the end be reversed again, and again becoming ruled by the divine.
So is Gordon Novel meaning this by basically saying that we should read the divine will, which seems to some is already possible through “project looking glass” or the “yellow cube”? Is the looking glass technology equivalent to the reading of the god’s will through astrology, which was practized in many cultures and civilizations before the Kali Age. So, is the looking glass technology somehow mirroring astrology – again by the Kali Age being placed in the middle as watershed of times? At least – from my standpoint here in India – I very much liked his announcement that we eventually (in this revolution) are able to get rid of bureaucrats…
Women Will Run the Future
Another positive announcement made by Novel is that apparently women (sic!) will run the future, and that “extraterrestrial societies seem to be run by the female side of the equation [=women]” too. As the structure of the latter sentence indicates and his tone proves, this fact is hard for him to speak out. However, from a rational standpoint (male) this sounds like a more sustainable form of living together. And the argument is reflected in the traditional knowledge of the World Ages oscillating between male and female poles. This oscillation is not necessarily to be seen absolute. The last Age, the Kali Yuga always has been aligned with the female aspect, though the world was obviously governed by a very male society. This is no contradiction since there exists not only a web of polarities between Ages (time) but also between Places as well as sociological phenomena. Of course the cyclical laws have to be applied on the right level and therefore it would not be appropriate to mix certain sociological structures with the structures of time – though they might influence each other.
Though there are polarities, they are obviously not separated absolutely from each other, but are entangle and arranged in layers and planes. There always is a horizontal order and a vertical one (at least). They should not be mixed up and confused.
There are two main questions about the general approaches in archaeology which have haunted me for years and so far have seemingly not been tackled or even considered. These questions are:
1.) How old – under physically traceable conditions – may things be?
The current approach in archaeology is to excavate something – pottery, metal-artifacts, wood-structures, stone-structures, etc – and then to date it. The common conclusions of archaeologists seem to go into the direction, that if there is no pottery, metal, etc. found before a certain date, then there certainly had not been any pottery, metal-artifacts before this time. This common conclusion completely ignores the fact that all matter has certain limits of preservation. In practice this means that metal-objects under ideal circumstances can only survive a certain period of time – being gold the most stable and iron one of the most quickly vanishing materials amongst metals. The same is the case with ceramics, bones and all other material evidence of lost cultures and civilizations. Together with physicists, geologists and experts from material sciences authoritative and reliable tables should be developed for each material, each type of soil and climate on how long the preserved material could possibly sustain.
One of the revolutionary consequences of these tables would be to measure the actual findings according to those tables and find out whether the respective earliest findings come close to the maximum duration period of a material or not. If they come close to this maximum duration period, then this could be a strong indicator (embedded in other factors) that the use and production of such a material could go back further in time.
2.) How deep?
The second alternative approach would largely involve Earth-sciences such as geology, meteorology, chronology and geophysics, etc. It would provide charts for climatological and geographical distinct regions with pre-fabricated data for archeologists on ‘what to expect’. The outcome would be charts for every region where you could derive the average depth of buried structures against a time-scale. It thus would make visible to the archeologist how deep he would have to dig to come to a layer on the same timescale of – let’s say the Old Kingdom of Egypt.
Furthermore, this would give a better overview, where enough sediments had possibly accumulated to find potentially intact structures – e.g. at river-deltas. On the other hand certain areas of low sedimentation could be pointed out, where the probability to find remains – from an earth-science viewpoint – is low or even non existent. Furthermore, if there are no findings at e.g. a certain river-delta area, and earth-sciences state that all structures before 2000 BC have to lie beneath, let’s say, 30 m depth – then subsequently, if nobody has dug so deeply, it can not be said that there is no trace of any civilization or human settlement.
The point of all this is, that there is still very little awareness of how different the sedimentation and erosion areas on this planet are. There are vast regions with lots of erosion, but no sedimentation, and vice versa areas like deltas where you have relatively little erosion but huge amounts of sediments piled upon each other. I know that these areas sometimes are interleaved and hardly to trace. In practice, it might be a long way to get all the data and present it in a useful way. But the approach as such would raise the awareness of these issues, which I think have been considered poorly until now.
These approaches are unusual because they apply a reverse way of current thinking. However, these alternative approaches might support a different view on today’s archeological quest for the distant past and mankind’s 95% of total history that is still called “pre-history”. I am aware that similar charts as those proposed under the second point are already used by archeologists. But this is rather the exception than the rule and seems not to be done systematically. Therefore a much closer work-relationship between earth-scientists and archeology should be promoted and emphasized. Robert Schoch, who as a geologist has provided many new and different insights into the structures of the Giza-plateau, is a good example of how archeology could be enriched massively through the increased involvement of natural sciences.
Ooparts – Out of Place Artifacts
There is a potential third request to archaeology: I would wish someone put up an Oopart-Database. ‘Ooopart’ is a widely used term in the alternative history movement and means “out of place artifacts”. Many authors who promote alternative views on history and especially pre-history again and again refer to a canon of different out of place artifacts which has almost become an established source – though mostly without going to the very source of their origins. Ooparts are archeological findings that do not fit the established timeline. Examples are the (not so much debated) Antikythera Mechanism, petrified human footprints side to side with those of dinosaurs or the famous Baghdad batteries. A lot has been done to catalogize these strange phenomena by William Corliss through the collection of potential ooparts by studying dozens of scientific journals and books. He published these findings as collections of short abstracts and citations through the “Project Sourcebook”. With this he stepped onto the path of the famous Charles Fort and tried to provide a selected and referenced source of inspiration for those who can not stop believing that there is something fundamentally flawed with today’s sciences – or simply that some major corrections have to be made.
However, Corliss started publishing those thematically arranged Sourcebooks from the 1970-ies onwards and though he seems to continue, the outlook of his books has not changed much. The next step, I believe, has to be made. To transfer this huge amount of knowledge into an online database and make it not only more easily accessible, but also editable in a wiki-web way. Public discussions and input should be possible to enrich and specify the listed phenomena. Such a database could do a lot to increase the credibility of alternative sciences, since – if wisely managed and maintained – could provide a verified fundament of facts, that up to this point is not really available and easily accessible.
If in a second step universities or single scientists could be convinced to crosscheck and peer review the database and to critically examine some of the key-ooparts, the way to more credibility for the whole group of alternative scientist would be paved. These key-ooparts would be determined through a rating system and thus would receive more attention in the verification process. (–> research communities
Verification here means the step by step research on the source and credibility of the respective artefact – and should also come up with a ranking of the relevance as oopart. “Relevance” in this context means, whether it is very far from ‘conventional’ science and would stimulate a paradigm-change, or if could be more easily matched with accepted views, by just modifying the current thesis. This has been done before by Corliss and so far it made much sense in his books.
Another benefit from such a database would be that – once established and well known – it could be used in references by alternative science authors. This would spare many readers, who are already accustomed to the specific subject, to again and again read similar sermons about an already well known oopart. Therefore a database would work as a reference tool and coordinate system in which theories could be much more easily placed. At least one step in the process from thesis to conclusion could be outsourced by authors and would save page-volume and many expensive pictures and/or sketches. At the same time the amount of evidence (to which authors refer) could be significantly enlarged.
Since I am not a natural scientist, I can not get deeply involved with the first two points. However, the oopart database is a matter of heart to me and I have been considering for quite some years to start something like that. Therefore any feedback on this matter is much welcome. If somebody even finds the idea so attractive to get involved, I would really consider starting it. So please, let me know what you think!
Here is the link to one paper as example, how point 2 could be implemented: Jean-Daniel Stanley: “Submergence and burial of ancient coastal sites on the subsiding Nile delta margin, Egypt”
ReMetrix – Maps to illustrate the type and depth of sediment covering the bottom of a waterbody.